Quotes to think about #6

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Some interesting quotes on top of my nature photos:

22 responses to “Quotes to think about #6”

  1. Alex Versa Avatar
    Alex Versa

    Love it! Thank you very much!

  2. Luke McNabb Avatar
    Luke McNabb

    I just can’t get enough of how your mind works..I just pray that I live to see the day that the world catches on..You sure seem to be making progress, though.. 😉

    1. Mike Levin Avatar
      Mike Levin

      thanks :-). we’re trying. I warn my people to be mentally ready – at some point, if we work hard enough, everyone will say “we knew it all along, it’s obvious” and all the blood, sweat, and tears are forgotten, the switch happens fast when it happens. It’s fine, that’s the goal!

      1. Paulette Avatar
        Paulette

        hahaha 100% probability that is gonna happen 🙁

      2. Luke McNabb Avatar
        Luke McNabb

        You are so right. It is truly amazing how much “ego” can play a role on every level. It is almost like it is the only thing keeping some persistent patterns together sometimes. 😉 That being said, I think you and your team/collaborators are going to be celebrated until the end of time…As I like to say, it is only a matter of time..not that time or matter really matter.. 😉

      3. Kir Avatar
        Kir

        Your focus is your super power. Your goal is absolutely to make it Duh science. I heard that term at a symposium I attended recently regarding some of the work of the Breland’s from the 40’s. We call it Duh science now, but when they made their observations, it was a huge paradigm shift.

        Mike, It feels like you are on the verge of the same. The day will come and I can’t wait because then we will be that much closer to the next duh breakthrough. I believe it will have everything to do with motivation. I don’t know how to even begin to prove any of what I believe, but it has something to do with motion. Motivation alters ones concept of time.
        Why would the way our eyes move when interpreting the environment be a thing if we didn’t need to manufacture motion to interpret it? Now we are talking time frames. The time frames that a rock exists and a fly have to be different. How would we know? We can only interpret time through the time we are stuck in. The patterns have to function differently in different time frames. The patterns change, yet remain the same.

      4. Philip Lambert Avatar

        I think the transition will be [generally] smoother than one might imagine.

  3. William J McCartan Avatar

    Always appreciate the little Godzilla, Mike, the quotes are a beautiful touch, peace

    1. Zach Collins Avatar
      Zach Collins

      I feel like the difference between now and the moment this all makes sense must be the smallest possible difference such that knowing it is the same as traveling it.

  4. S de Jager Avatar
    S de Jager

    Great citations, thank you for posting! I wonder: who is Marsa Hickey? I could not find much after searching.

    Many of the quotes remind me of something I have recently been trying to refine: “ratio is the best thing we have ever discovered, and the worst thing we have ever invented”. There are many layers I am trying to (polycomputationally) pack here, but I have the feeling it can be improved (maybe avoiding “best” and “worst”, somehow).

    1. Mike Levin Avatar
      Mike Levin

      Marsa is an up-and-coming philosopher who is not widely known yet.

      1. Kir Avatar
        Kir

        Yet….

  5. Maria Fátima Pereira Avatar
    Maria Fátima Pereira

    Aprecio o seu trabalho, seu pensamento, sua sensibilidade, Michael !!! Continue! Persistência!
    Obrigada

  6. Philip Lambert Avatar

    These are lovely pictures and thoughtful quotes, thanks for posting. I have (carefully) re-used a couple of the quotes, and also ordered a biography of Giordano Bruno. My favourite quote is maybe Wiener, but maybe it is still too heretical and whimsical to use at this point.

  7. Jens Westergren Avatar
    Jens Westergren

    In my interpretation of the free energy principle, Stefano Cartas asks the question: “What must the internal model look like in order for the symptoms (behavior) to minimize free energy on a certain scale?
    What would you say?

  8. Jakub Avatar
    Jakub

    Cannot recommend this interview with Paul Feyerabend enough: https://youtu.be/EUtzWMh1fro

    A quote to get any novice started:

    “The withdrawal of philosophy into a “professional” shell of its own has had disastrous consequences. The younger generation of physicists, the Feynmans, the Schwingers, etc., may be very bright; they may be more intelligent than their predecessors, than Bohr, Einstein, Schrödinger, Boltzmann, Mach and so on. But they are uncivilized savages, they lack in philosophical depth – and this is the fault of the very same idea of professionalism which you are now defending.”

    1. Philip Lambert Avatar

      Thank you Jakub, that is an interesting observation. (Though I, personally, would be a little careful about using words (tokens) with their associated concepts (tokens) and possible distortions such as ‘bright’ and ‘intelligent’, and potentially emotive phrases like ‘uncivilised savages’. Even if it does make a strong point, and is more interesting to read(!)).

      From my subjective perspective, I think you make a very valid point. But the people you cite were subject to their time and to their environment. As we all are, now.

      The theme that interests me is that afaict many great scientists (almost all of them?) turn to philosophy, mysticism or religion (or something darker) when they reach the limits of their comprehension. The current ‘now’ is interesting in that we may be at what one might call a Galileo point. Michael?

      1. Jakub Avatar
        Jakub

        Feyerabend calls himself an epistemological anarchist and he can be a bit mean sometimes, in retrospect choosing the most controversial thing he has ever said might not have been the wisest move on my part, but my intention was just to get some poeple interested :))

        1. Philip Lambert Avatar

          Absolutely. And thanks again Jakub for introducing us to Feyerabend the Firebrand. And you are right, one sometimes needs to modulate one’s normal voice to get a point across and to get people actually thinking. Carefully and with due accord to the visible, invisible and potential audience, if that does not sound too philosophical and whimsical? I learnt that lesson many many years ago, to painful effect 🙂

          I am going to listen to more of the Firebrand now…

  9. Amir Avatar
  10. Merary Rodriguez Avatar
    Merary Rodriguez

    We have found a strange footprint on the shores of the unknown. We have devised profound theories, one after the other, to account for its origin. At last, we have succeeded in reconstructing the creature that made the footprint. Lo and behold! It is our own.” – A. E. Eddington

    Now I know every bioelectric pattern decoded is a diary of consciousness.
    Reflection.

  11. Philip Lambert Avatar

    That is a lovely whimsical quote Merary, albeit a touch recursive and lacking in scientific rigour. The question for me is what is bioelectricity and bioelectric patterning? My best guess, visually, is they are EM quantum standing waves in what I call Information Space, and these interfere and pattern in beautifully dynamic (mathematical) ways. Consciousness, on a continuous spectrum. Not discrete, not Boolean. The music of the omniverse, if that is not too whimsical.

    Sometime though, maybe almost all of the time, it better though just to enjoy it and turn [it] to art and music and emotion. It to bit to it, as Wheeler might have said. Here is one picture of ‘it’ that I like, at the bottom of one of my posts a while back:

    https://philiplambert.io/rutherford-and-shannon-and-the-information-theory-and-art-of-learning-teaching-and-public-relations/

    It is a beautiful sunny day here in London, and I am spending the rest of it playing football now (Strange but true).

    Thanks again for posting.
    Philip.

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